#39 Alli Thurmond Quinlan - The Field-Tested Guide to Terraforming Your City
You’re not supposed to be good at everything. But somehow, Alli is.
Architect, landscape architect, developer, GC, policy reformer, zoning translator, builder of teams, builder of trust, builder of actual buildings-it’s no wonder we spent the first five minutes of this episode just trying to list all the roles she plays.
In this conversation, Alli joins me to talk about what it means to be a true generalist in an era obsessed with specialization. We cover her journey from flipping houses as a teenager to running a growing team at Flintlock Lab, directing the Incremental Development Alliance, and quietly (or not so quietly) reshaping how development works across the country-starting in her hometown of Fayetteville, Arkansas.
We dig into building science, incremental housing, the limits of Revit, and why being a builder makes you a better architect (and vice versa). But we also get into the harder stuff-like learning to lead, facing city bureaucracy, and what to do when the guy reviewing your permit might genuinely want to run you over with his truck.
This one’s as practical as it is philosophical, and it left me feeling more hopeful-and a little more fired up-about what’s still possible if we’re willing to roll up our sleeves and terraform our own backyards.
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00:00 Community Engagement and Local Impact
02:51 The Multifaceted Career of Ali
05:51 Navigating Development and Housing Challenges
09:09 The Unique Economy of Fayetteville
11:56 Balancing Growth and Community Needs
14:57 Career Trajectory and Intentionality
18:06 Building Science and Sustainable Practices
20:49 Design-Build Workflow and Efficiency
24:07 Entrepreneurial Spirit in Development
31:57 The Design-Build Approach: Learning Through Doing
34:51 Scaling Up: The Challenges of Growth
39:10 Understanding the Market: Design Meets Demand
41:55 Terraforming Communities: The Role of Local Investment
44:11 Building a Culture of Collaboration: The Fayetteville Experience
49:50 Changing the Narrative: Zoning and Community Engagement
57:04 Navigating Conflict: Building Relationships with City Staff
01:08:20 Building Relationships in Local Governance
01:15:06 Navigating Conflict with City Staff
01:20:01 Growing a Business: Challenges and Changes
01:26:09 Tools and Software for Efficiency
01:34:00 Learning from Failures and Growth
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Flintlock Lab: flintlocklab.com
Incremental Development Alliance: incrementaldevelopment.org
Instagram: @flintlocklab
LinkedIn: Alli’s Profile
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